Worst & best synastry aspects: Sid Vicious & Nancy Spungen


Moon hour, day of the Moon.

I actually wanted to start an article talking about the best aspects regarding synastry but I think showing worst aspects will be much helpful than good ones.

As Carl Jung says : “Meeting of two personalities is like a meeting of two chemical substances. If there’s any reaction, both will be transformed. “

Yes, we could agree that this is right. In any case, and with anybody you meet this is true. You will always have a piece of you shared, and in return piece of other person will be forever shared with you, even if it’s just a simple moment.

I was never a fan of Sex Pistols, but I’ve heard story of Sid and Nancy and since I’m so interested in “what went wrong” things I decided to look up their charts. And there was one thing that popped into my eyes right away. There was almost exact opposition of his Saturn (planet of death, restriction, rules, integration into material, cold) to her Moon (nurturing, emotions, mothership).

Oppositions are not always bad in synastry and I will explain later, but this was so important because this opposition made a square to her first house Sun in the sign of Pisces. We already know two signs that represent victims (not always in this sense) – Virgo and Pisces.

Now I will post a synastry chart and we will try to figure out what exactly went wrong:

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About two lovers

A year after Nancy and Sid met and started dating, Sex Pistols fell apart. It was an important time for Sid.

Since childhood both experienced trauma and pain, at the age of 16 Sid was already injecting drugs with his mother. Nancy was a heroin addict at the age of 15 as well.

Heroin addicts that were wilding, showing bad behaviour and agressivness.

Two days before she was found dead with a stab wound to her stomach, Nancy bought a small knife for Sid, since he was a fan of knives.

Did Sid kill Nancy or it was just an accident involving robery? We don’t know. But couple had been constantly on courts for drugs and weapon charges.

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Sex Pistols didn’t like Nancy because she was a rockstar groupie “junkie” that went from one band to another. Why she decided to stay with Sid and finish her story in this way? We’ll try to find out.

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Aspects between two

Sid’s Moon Sextile Nancy’s Uranus
Orb 0°00′ Applying (APPLYING ASPECTS ARE OF HUGE IMPORTANCE)
“The saying ‘expect the unexpected’ could be applied to this combination of Sid and Nancy’s planets. There is an element of excitement and adventure when Sid and Nancy get together. They both enjoy the thrill of being in each other’s company exploring new territories together. Many relationships start with the thrill and ardour of romance only to have it fade with the routine of daily life. However, Sid and Nancy know how to keep the exhilaration for the long term. In particular Sid is very attracted to Nancy, acknowledging that Nancy adds a lot of spice to his life. He feels life is more joyful since he has met Nancy. Sid may be the one to nurture some of Nancy’s more adventurous plans or he may simply enjoy going along for the ride. Nancy feels that Sid gives her companionship and comfort prompting her to new heights of innovative ideas and activities. It’s possible that both Sid and Nancy enjoy an unusual and innovative hobby or work project. This is a fun combination for a personal union, but will need other connections between two people’s planets to cement a long-term intimate relationship. This combination is also ideal for less personal relationships such as friendships or a working project that requires creative and innovative ideas.”

 

Sid’s Mercury Square Nancy’s Uranus
Orb 3°56′ Applying
A lively and unpredictable relationship is the result of this combination of planets. Sid and Nancy enjoy the meeting of two minds and the sense of freedom that they experience in each other’s company. At first they both enjoy the tension that crackles between them, but this soon becomes irritating. The problem is that there is no peace to be experienced in this relationship. The constant tension of two people having different ideas is a challenge. What seemed like a meeting of two minds soon becomes a clashing of two minds. Another obstacle to a close bond is a lack of commitment. As the relationship develops Sid and Nancy realise that it is difficult for them to predict the outcome of their union. In particular Sid experiences discomfort because of Nancy’s unreliability. Even if Nancy is usually a reliable person, she seems unable to be constant in her association with Sid. This is a difficult combination for a personal relationship, although it can work depending on other aspects of the relationship. It is difficult to find a balance in a friendship or work association.

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Sids letter to Nancy

Sid’s Venus Square Nancy’s Pluto
Orb 4°13′ Applying
This is a powerful combination of planets indicating a strong bond, whether in a friendship, love union or work association. Sid and Nancy experience a compelling attraction to each other, one that easily becomes passionate and intense. Depending on the nature of the relationship, Sid and Nancy could easily end up in bed together. Positively they are transformed by this relationship, becoming more influential and powerful in their own lives, even if initially they have to overcome moments of feeling powerless. However, they also experience intense emotional battles as the passionate nature of the union becomes difficult to control. If Sid and Nancy are in a romantic liaison, these emotional struggles can overflow into the bedroom adversely affecting sexual relations. It is also possible that this combination of planets indicates a love affair that is intense and fraught with emotional problems. While both Sid and Nancy experience the tension, Sid feels more overwhelmed. He may even feel bullied by the strong personality of Nancy. Sid finds it difficult to live his life effectively while in this relationship. Nancy struggles to understand Sid and becomes impatient, wanting him to be more assertive. Nancy doesn’t realise how domineering she appears to be. The challenge for both Sid and Nancy is to direct their passion in a positive direction, possibly a shared artistic or creative pursuit.

Sid’s Mars Trine Nancy’s Sun
Orb 4°33′ Applying
This combination of the Sun and the planet Mars is a positive one for a working partnership that calls for concentrated effort on a joint project. It also ignites a strong sexual spark for a personal relationship, one that continues to flare throughout the union. It is an exciting combination. There is never a dull moment when Nancy and Sid are together. They love and fight with energy. Nancy and Sid are hard working and energetic, achieving more together than they can on their own. Together Nancy and Sid are able to tackle most of life’s challenges with confidence and a positive attitude, taking the initiative, rather than sitting back and waiting for things to happen. Together they also enjoy taking few risks in life, particularly ones that satisfy their sense of adventure. They need only be wary of becoming too impulsive, of taking unnecessary risks that lead to dangerous ground. Nancy feels that Sid provides the impetus and drive to help achieve her full potential. Nancy is aware that her personality also helps Sid achieve his goals. Sid is excited by Nancy’s powerful personality and is inspired in his ambitions. This is certainly a progressive relationship that makes an impact on both Nancy and Sid and those around them.

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Sid’s Mars Trine Nancy’s Mercury
Orb 0°49′ Applying
There is an instant spark of attraction when Nancy and Sid first meet, and this continues during the course of the relationship. The spark is likely to be an intellectual one, which may or may not result in a sexual attraction. Nancy and Sid are stimulated by each other’s company, enjoying lively conversations and energetic activities. Both Nancy and Sid learn much from each other and enjoy facing challenges together which in turn help them to move forward in their own lives. This combination of the planets Mercury and Mars is ideal for any working association, which requires co-operation and drive in order to complete a challenging project. However, it can also be beneficial for personal relationships involving individuals who enjoy change and challenge. Nancy is challenged to use her wits in this relationship. Sid’s drive and determination force Nancy to clarify her thoughts and opinions. Nancy is likely to find this aspect of the relationship exciting. In turn Sid enjoys Nancy’s intellectual input which helps him achieve his personal goals. Together Nancy and Sid may dare to take risks in their lives which lead to adventures that might otherwise have been missed.

Sid’s Mars Trine Nancy’s Neptune
Orb 0°48′ Applying
The glue that holds Sid and Nancy together is a focus on a joint artistic, spiritual or philanthropic cause, a shared idyll of how to make the world a better place. Together they share many dreams of how to improve their lives, their environment and the world at large. They are a creative duo, never short of ideas and with the ability to inspire. Depending on other aspects of their personalities they may or may not have the stability and endurance to create something concrete. Sid is likely to be the leader, the person with the drive which enables them to achieve these dreams. Nancy is the creative ideas person who inspires Sid. If Sid and Nancy fail to share a common dream, then this relationship is likely to lack direction and Sid and Nancy slowly drift apart. They have difficulty maintaining a momentum necessary for a long-term bond. For this reason this combination of planets may indicate a relationship based on a shared project or past-time rather than an intimate lovers’ bond. For instance Sid and Nancy may share a friendship, enjoying martial arts as a shared activity.

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Sid’s Mars Sesquisquare Nancy’s Chiron
Orb 0°10′ Applying
This is a difficult and painful combination of the planet Mars and Chiron. Sid and Nancy have difficulty overcoming past hurts and failures in their relationships. As a result their unresolved problems have an impact on this union. In particular Nancy’s insecurities have a profound effect on this liaison. Nancy is sensitive because of bad experiences in previous relationships. This causes problems in this association, because unwittingly Nancy reacts pessimistically to certain aspects of Sid’s behaviour. Unless Sid always behaves in an understanding and compassionate manner, Nancy takes offence. This is because Nancy is predisposed to view Sid’s actions in a negative light. It is possible that Sid lacks sympathy to Nancy’s problems, but not necessarily so. The onus is on both Sid and Nancy to become aware of the problems so that they can heal these problems from the past and progress in a more joyful manner in their relationship.

Sid’s Jupiter Trine Nancy’s Mars
Orb 4°53′ Applying
Nancy and Sid are able to combine their talents well under the positive influence of the planets Mars and Jupiter. Their association provides them both with a zest for life. Nancy has the drive necessary for any joint projects, and Sid has the know-how and planning capabilities. Nancy and Sid set goals, work towards them while overcoming obstacles along the way. Together they successfully achieve their ambitions. They enjoy collaborating, gaining the respect of each other in the process. Nancy admires Sid’s inspirational ideas. In turn Sid appreciates Nancy’s initiative and energy. As well as working together Nancy and Sid also delight in playing together. It’s possible that they enjoy sharing travel and sporting activities. Whatever joint project they undertake Nancy and Sid enjoy good fortune.

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Nancy and Sid taking answering caller questions

Sid’s Saturn Opposition Nancy’s Moon
Orb 3°05′ Separating (only separating aspect I’m putting in because of it’s importance
Many astrologers believe that a connection between the serious planet Saturn and a personal planet such as the Moon is important, enabling the relationship to be long lasting. However, this can also be a difficult connection. Nancy and Sid can both suffer from feelings of discontent and insecurity within this union. They work hard to cover up their sense that some emotional warmth is lacking, but there are times when they despair of getting their needs met. Nancy feels this lack of emotional warmth keenly. It is difficult for her to relax and feel truly appreciated in this relationship. Sid brings a certain coldness to the union, finding it difficult to generate emotional warmth. Sid may feel that his attempts at intimacy are misunderstood and met with an overly-emotional reaction from Nancy. Much work needs to be done in order to understand each other. On a positive note this combination of planets can indicate a committed to resolve difficulties. Therefore Nancy and Sid have the strong possibility of being able to stay in this relationship on a long-term basis and reap the rewards of a stable and secure union. A satisfying relationship can result from Nancy’s and Sid’s patience and persistence.

Sid’s Saturn Square Nancy’s Sun
Orb 4°11′ Applying
Many astrologers believe that a connection between the serious planet Saturn and a personal planet such as the Sun is important, providing the cement for a long-lasting relationship. In other words, a serious planet is needed for a serious, meaningful union such as marriage. It is certainly true that the combination of the Sun and Saturn is found in many meaningful relationships. However, the planet Saturn can also cause problems. Certainly this combination indicates that Nancy and Sid both view this as a serious association, whether it is a marriage, friendship or a working partnership. Both Nancy and Sid are committed to their association. It is likely that they experienced a strong attraction in the initial stages of their relationship. When Nancy and Sid first met they each knew they had discovered a potential serious relationship, one to which they could commit and build on over a lifetime. If they believe in reincarnation, then it is likely that they felt a karmic attraction when they first met. Perhaps this was a moment of recognition when they first looked into the other person’s eyes. However, the very qualities, which they seriously considered as attractive in the initial stages of the relationship, can become the source of friction if they are not careful. In particular, Sid needs to be wary of becoming too critical and judgmental. Initially Sid found Nancy’s personality traits to be worthy of a committed union. He admired Nancy’s qualities as complementing his own. However, it is easy for Sid to forget this attraction. As the relationship develops he feels threatened by the force of Nancy’s personality and takes a superior attitude in defence. As a result Nancy feels threatened, disliking the authoritarian side of Sid. If Nancy is not careful her self-confidence is whittled away and the relationship becomes onerous. It is vital that both Nancy and Sid work at developing a stable basis for communication and understanding in this relationship. If both Nancy and Sid work at maintaining their own self-confidence as well as mutual respect then they have the makings for a very successful marriage or working relationship. Much of their success may depend on other supportive, positive connections between them.

Sid’s Saturn Trine Nancy’s Uranus
Orb 4°08′ Applying
The planet Saturn is a vital ingredient in relationship astrology. It is the planet that represents stability and commitment and is seen by astrologers as the necessary glue that holds a relationship together on a long-term basis. Of course not everyone is seeking long-term commitment, but for those who are Saturn is a welcome sign. In this case Sid and Nancy are approaching their union from different angles and this can be both beneficial and detrimental. On the one hand Sid and Nancy feel drawn to each other, recognising that they each have different traits to bring to this union. Sid is probably the more serious of the pair, providing stability and commitment, whereas Nancy is more likely to provide the impetus for growth and change. If Sid becomes too stuck in his ways then Nancy is able to spark a change of attitude. Together they strike a happy balance between responsibility and diversity.

Sid’s Saturn Square Nancy’s Ascendant
Orb 0°07′ Applying
The planet Saturn is a vital ingredient in relationship astrology. It is the planet that represents stability and commitment and is seen by astrologers as the necessary glue that holds a relationship together on a long-term basis. Of course not everyone is seeking long-term commitment, but for those who are Saturn is a welcome sign. This is particularly true of connections between one person’s Saturn and another person’s Sun, Moon, Ascendant or Nodes. In this case Sid’s Saturn is combining with Nancy’s Ascendant indicating that this is a significant relationship. Sid and Nancy feel strongly drawn to each other, perhaps experiencing a sense that their relationship was written in the stars. In other words they may feel as though they were destined to meet and form a union. Although this is an important union both Sid and Nancy could experience some difficulties. Nancy may sometimes feel overwhelmed by Sid’s expectations. On the other hand Sid may sometimes think that Nancy does not live up to expectations. Nevertheless this is a significant relationship and Sid and Nancy are committed to working through any problems.
Sid’s Uranus Quincunx Nancy’s Mercury
Orb 1°23′ Applying
A lively and unpredictable relationship is the result of this combination of planets. Nancy and Sid enjoy the meeting of two minds and the sense of freedom that they experience in each other’s company. At first they both enjoy the tension that crackles between them, but this soon becomes irritating. The problem is that there is no peace to be experienced in this relationship. The constant tension of two people having different ideas is a challenge. What seemed like a meeting of two minds soon becomes a clashing of two minds. Another obstacle to a close bond is a lack of commitment. As the relationship develops Nancy and Sid realise that it is difficult for them to predict the outcome of their union. In particular Nancy experiences discomfort because of Sid’s unreliability. Even if Sid is usually a reliable person, he seems unable to be constant in his association with Nancy. This is a difficult combination for a personal relationship, although it can work depending on other aspects of the relationship. It is difficult to find a balance in a friendship or work association.

Sid’s Neptune Sesquisquare Nancy’s Moon
Orb 0°02′ Applying
Romance is a major theme in a union that involves the Moon and the planet Neptune. With this combination of planets Nancy and Sid both feel that they are meant to be together. Perhaps they believe that it is a union of their souls. This is the height of romantic love. However, with romantic love there is always the possibility of disillusionment. Nancy and Sid are likely to stumble across obstacles in this relationship because of unrealistic and overly idealistic expectations of each other. It is difficult for them to maintain the heights of love first attained at the beginning of the relationship. Misunderstandings can easily arise. After the first flush of love Nancy feels that her emotional needs are being ignored, that Sid does not understand her. It is even possible that Nancy feels that Sid is being deceptive in some manner. There is a danger that Sid does feel the need to hide behind a facade, failing to be his true self. Perhaps Sid feels that he cannot live up to Nancy’s expectations. Despair within this relationship needs to be avoided by both Nancy and Sid facing their feelings of loss in previous relationships. They need to face the problems honestly in order to avoid the breakdown of trust and ultimately the relationship. As a result Nancy and Sid may be able to recapture their sense of belonging together which was so strong in the initial stages of their union.

Sid’s Pluto Opposition Nancy’s Mercury
Orb 6°44′ Applying
This is a potentially explosive combination of the planets Mercury and Pluto, with communication playing a key role. The problem is that this combination indicates a battle of two minds. Both Nancy and Sid discover that they trigger forceful emotions and thoughts in each other. At times the intensity becomes overwhelming and they don’t know what to do. It is vital that both Nancy and Sid communicate honestly, keeping all emotions and thoughts out in the open as much as is possible. Otherwise their relationship is likely to become volcanic, possibly even abusive as they battle to make themselves understood. They both find it near impossible to simply let matters slide, feeling that they must tackle each other head on. This works well if both Nancy and Sid are able to enjoy penetrating and honest discussions. However, if they don’t then one of them, probably Nancy, is likely to suffer. Positively this relationship is transformative. Negatively it is abusive. The nature of the union depends on Nancy and Sid’s personalities and other aspects of their association.

Sid's farewell letter :'( He never got to be buried next to her...:

Sid’s Chiron Conjunction Nancy’s Chiron
Orb 1°38′ Applying
The asteroid Chiron is not a major influence on this relationship. It indicates a shared sense of values. These values could stem from Sid and Nancy sharing similar social backgrounds, or perhaps they both experienced a similar painful childhood experience. This hurtful memory could increase their understanding of each other. It is also possible that Sid and Nancy have a common bond as students, teachers, patients or healers.

Sid’s Ascendant Trine Nancy’s Sun
Orb 3°02′ Applying
It is significant in relationship astrology when one person’s planet makes contact with the Ascendant in another person’s chart. In this case Nancy’s Sun is combining with Sid’s Ascendant indicating that this is a significant personal relationship. Nancy and Sid feel strongly drawn to each other, experiencing a sense of completeness in each other’s company. Nancy can really shine through her association with Sid. She appreciates the benefits that this union brings into her life and the way in which Sid helps her achieve her personal goals. In turn Sid has a greater sense of well-being through his association with Nancy. He welcomes the sunnier aspects of Nancy’s personality and appreciates their mutual respect and affection. While this combination is most likely to indicate an intimate love union, it can also augur well for friendships, family relationship and work associations.

5to1 (Tumblr): Sid &Nancy:

 

So there it goes. Some aspects that made their story so intense and tragic. Perhaps it was a death pact, perhaps she was killed by someone else. They were both wounded individuals who became victims of their escapism.

But in the end it was their choice. Perhaps they took some things too seriously. I feel sorry that Sids last wish wasn’t respected because Nancy was buried in the place Sid couldn’t, and just because he wasn’t Jewish.

Some stories really touch you and this is definitely one of those.

See you next time with more best and worst synastry aspects. 🙂

 

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